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31 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 14:04

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32 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 14:12

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Can’t see Parky changing tactics, so far so good away from home this season. Hopefully he sticks with it.
 
Parky proves me wrong, 2 up top and 3 at the back - fair play. Looks like he’s gone for physical to start at least.

33 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 14:17

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34 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 14:21

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I'm guessing that's the oldest team ever to play in the Championship. If it's not, it's going to be close.

35 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 14:34

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Happy with the shift in tactics but it says a lot when Doidge can't even make one of the two striking places.

And Dyer? Fuck me, he must have impressed during training because he was fucking awful against Rovers.

36 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 14:36

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Andy Walker
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Ye would have liked to have seen Magennis and Doidge hopefully he gets time off the bench. 

Give Dyer a chance now he’s been training a bit.

37 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 16:27

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This is shit.

38 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 16:58

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All things considered, a decent result. I would have taken that at kick of. Any point away from home is a good point no matter who you are.

39 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 17:12

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40 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 18:01

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Report: Rotherham United 1-1 Bolton Wanderers

Christian Doid first goal in Wanderers colours earned his side a battling point against Rotherham United at the AESEAL New York Stadium.

The points appeared to be going to the home side when Will Vaulks’ long-range free-kick put Rotherham in front after Josh Magennis saw his penalty saved early in the second half.

But the Welshman came off the bench to show a cool head and finish smartly past Marek Rodek.

Team News

Phil Parkinson made five changes from the side that lost to Blackburn Rovers before the international break.

Clayton Donaldson was handed his first league start, while Lloyd Dyer made his full debut for the club.

Ben Alnwick returned to the line-up after recovering from the injury that sidelined him in recent weeks, while Gary O’Neil and Marc Wilson also regained their places.

The Wanderers manager opted to play three at the back and two up front.

First Half

Backed by a strong and vociferous travelling support of over 2,000 fans, Wanderers, wearing all black, got the game underway at the New York Stadium.

The found themselves defending an early corner and Semi Ajayii was guilty of missing a golden chance to test Alnwick when the big central defender could only glance his header wide.

Wanderers’ first sniff on goal came shortly afterwards when Josh Magennis got a looping header onto O’Neil’s free-kick but could only head just over Rodak’s bar.

The hosts responded immediately and Michael Smith hit a powerful shot which narrowly flew over the bar after shrugging off a couple of challenges.

Smith was looking hungry to break the deadlock and he headed straight into the arms of Alnwick after latching on to Taylor’s right sided cross.

Donaldson’s glancing header came off the foot of the post after he got on to O’Neil’s in-swinging cross, but the chance wouldn’t have conted had it gone in due to the assistant referee’s flag signalling an offside infringement.

O’Neil’s set-pieces were proving to be somewhat problematic for the hosts to sufficiently deal with and Hobbs can count himself unlucky not to have seen his header off one such delivery go in after Donaldson was upended on the far side.

The visitors were now getting into their groove and containing the hosts whose early tempo was now being stymied.

Jason Lower was unlucky to have been cautioned for a foul on Ryan Williams. From the resulting free-kick, Alnwick was at full stretch to keep out a header.

Rotherham were buoyed by this and in their next attack, Taylor charged towards goal and hit a powerful effort that was deflected behind by Wheater.

The hosts were forced into making an early change with Jones being replaced by Vyner.

Wanderers also had to make an enforced change on 34 minutes with O’Neil limping off. Josh Vela came on to replace the midfielder.

Despite both sides creating several half chances, the half drew to a goalless close.

Second Half

Within two minutes of the restart, Wanderers were awarded a penalty after Magennis was hauled down by Wood in the box after the striker outsmarted the defender.

But Rodak produced a stunning save, diving at full stretch to his left-hand side, to thwart Magennis from the spot.

The Millers responded to their reprieve and took the lead before the hour mark through Vaulks’ free-kick which was powerfully struck and directed low through the wall beyond Alnwick.

It could have been two moments later but for Alnwick making a smart close range block off Williams.

Wanderers best chance of getting back into the game appeared to be from a set-piece and Wheater saw a header cleared off the line after getting on the end of a corner.

The Millers made another substitution with Joe Newell coming on for Kyle Vassell.

Parkinson made a double attacking change for Wanderers with Christian Doidge and Yanic Wildschutt replacing Dyer and Williams.

A post prevented Wanderers from going two-down after Michael Smith’s stunning right footed curler from distance rebounded off the woodwork with Alnwick beaten.

But Doidge got his first goal for the club since his switch from Forest Green with six minutes remaining with a tidy finish from distance to spark wild scenes in the away end.

Full Time

Bolton Wanderers: Alnwick, Lowe, Donaldson, Hobbs, Olkowski, Wilson, O’Neil (Vela 34'), J Williams (Doidge 66'), Dyer (Wildschut 66'), Magennis, Wheater (C)

Subs Not Used: Matthews, Taylor, Beevers, Noone

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41 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 18:04

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Not the worst result in the world, hopefully a goal for Doidge will give him some confidence. Good to see Parky had 3 strikers on the pitch towards the end, the ending to the Blackburn game was about as limp as it gets.

42 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 18:12

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43 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 18:13

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Cheers Bonce. Smile

44 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 18:19

Natasha Whittam

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I'd have saved that while eating a Twirl.

45 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 18:27

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Jay Jay Okocha
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Yes, but your not allowed to block the whole goal by lying down in front of it  Very Happy

46 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sat Oct 20 2018, 22:57

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Tony Kelly
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Another match where we failed to have a shot in the 1st half. Might just turn up for the 2nd half next week. Maybe that is an idea to pitch to Ken, 2nd half season tickets.

47 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sun Oct 21 2018, 11:29

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Nat Lofthouse
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Again we showed a lot of defensive frailty despite the 3 DMs and could have conceded a few before we finally did,  but when it happened we showed a bit more attacking intent and pulled off a draw. Obvious question is why Parky doesn't do that from the off? Still there were positives with Donaldson proving surprisingly effective and Doidge getting the chance he needed to show what he can do best but it seems Parky still hasn't found the combo that will give us more wins.
Happy with the draw but it's still not quite right.

48 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sun Oct 21 2018, 11:31

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote: Obvious question is why Parky doesn't do that from the off?

You'd be the first to moan if he started with 3 strikers.

49 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sun Oct 21 2018, 11:34

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Tony Kelly
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Yet another utterly guff performance, i wouldn't mind if the shite that is being served up was effective, but it isnt, and Ken wants people to cough up to improve attendances, get real who apart from the hard core are gonna pay to watch parkys dross, on a positive great finish from CD. !!!

50 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sun Oct 21 2018, 13:36

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote: Obvious question is why Parky doesn't do that from the off?

You'd be the first to moan if he started with 3 strikers.
You're deliberately misunderstanding the point I'm making now.

51 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sun Oct 21 2018, 16:27

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Frank Worthington
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You'd be the first to moan if he started with 3 strikers.
I don't think anybody would moan if he started with 3 strikers, but we all know he won't so it's a moot point.

52 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sun Oct 21 2018, 17:21

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Andy Walker
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Most teams in this league would dick us if we started 3 strikers against them, we’d be overrun and it would be madness. 

Parky did well yesterday, got us out of a hole with decisive and aggressive changes. Not sure we’d have got that point last season - there’s more belief in the squad now.

53 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sun Oct 21 2018, 19:16

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Yet another utterly guff performance, i wouldn't mind if the shite that is being served up was effective, but it isnt

But it is - we’ve been promoted and stayed up playing this way. Parky isn’t going to change and at this point, why should he?

54 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Sun Oct 21 2018, 22:19

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Andy Walker
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Does Magennis not understand the offside rule? He was offside far too much.

55 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Mon Oct 22 2018, 03:01

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Tony Kelly
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Yet another utterly guff performance, i wouldn't mind if the shite that is being served up was effective, but it isnt

But it is - we’ve been promoted and stayed up playing this way. Parky isn’t going to change and at this point, why should he?
I think your very easily pleased !!! Mad Mad

56 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Mon Oct 22 2018, 09:09

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Andy Walker
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I just think it’s about being realistic, we’ve spent almost no money in 3 years so I just don’t expect much. Megson spent cash so I expected more of a return.

If we ever get investment and they put money into the club my expectations will shift.

57 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Mon Oct 22 2018, 10:38

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Most teams in this league would dick us if we started 3 strikers against them, we’d be overrun and it would be madness. 

Parky did well yesterday, got us out of a hole with decisive and aggressive changes. Not sure we’d have got that point last season - there’s more belief in the squad now.
When you say "most teams in this league would dick us", which ones would not dick us if not Rotherham? 

I agree that survival is the objective and that we can't expect fantastic quality given the budget, but I also think it's a valid point that whilst we continue to have so few chances up front and exert so little pressure on defences over 90 minutes it's worrying where the next win will come from. 

If we are ever going to go for it, isn't it better to do so against the teams at the bottom rather than those at the top?

58 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Mon Oct 22 2018, 10:45

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Andy Walker
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Yes teams like Rotherham are who we should be more gung ho against, that’s why we were? No reason to start like that we should be keeping it tight.

59 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Mon Oct 22 2018, 13:13

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Yes teams like Rotherham are who we should be more gung ho against, that’s why we were? No reason to start like that we should be keeping it tight.
I think there's a very good reason for starting off on the front foot against teams that are struggling and that is an early goal for us would undermine their confidence and make them less willing to attack in numbers. I don't get conceding the initiative until we go behind. 
It's been said that starting with two strikers is an attacking move but if they are starved of service all it's doing is increasing the chances of holding the ball up a bit longer when we hoof it clear and that doesn't do much unless the midfield are willing to push up and support which Williams, Lowe and O'Neil weren't. At least Vela pushed on a bit when he came on, but we needed more bodies to support the strikers and the wingers were relatively anonymous.

60 Re: Rotherham 1-1 Bolton on Mon Oct 22 2018, 14:57

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Andy Walker
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It’s not a case of handing the initiative to Rotherham, quite the opposite in fact. I’d say Parky is struggling in central midfield in that Williams, O’neill and Vela are supposedly box to box players but don’t have enough about them (currently) to perform that role successfully - isolating the striker(s). I’d like to seeOz in the team every week, but not sure he’s effective unless played as a number 10 - which won’t haooen with 2 up front.

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